Abloh: I came back to Chicago, and me and Chris Eaton started this thing called FortHome. I made a business card using the laser cutter at architecture school and made my first T-shirt. It had Edwardian script, which was the only script that was in Adobe at the time, that said FORTHOME, and on the back it had a big X. I'm just realizing it now: It looked a lot like the back of an Off-White T-shirt.

Abloh: There was a professor by the name of Louise Wilson, who was the head of the [master's program] at Central Saint Martins in London, and she was the teacher for some of the greatest designers of our time. Kanye and I sat with her, and we were like, “Hey, we want to learn the right way.” And she basically said, “You guys are idiots. You know more than my students. Why on earth would you want to go to fashion school?” But that process was sort of how we ended up interning at Fendi. And when we were there, we did all the meetings. We were off the radar in Rome, getting to work at 9 a.m. on a Monday. We did all the intern shit, and this was in the midst of My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. We went to Hawaii after this period.